Question:
Declawing 1 year old cat?
2009-02-25 11:07:35 UTC
I am asking, trying to help out a friends cat... she just bought furniture and this cat really would like to shred it to pieces... the only option is to declaw her ( I know, I know.. I have a cat that is NOT declawed and I do not approve of it- BUT if it is an only option...) My question is- can you declaw an "older" cat- she is only about a year old. Are there any special things you have to consider for her after care?
23 answers:
troublesniffer
2009-02-25 12:18:00 UTC
Hi there,



Take a moment to think about your statement that there are no alternatives to declawing.It is just not correct. It is not the only option. If you really disapprove of the practice which is banned in 25 countries ( wonder why?) you would spend more time convincing your friend that there are options to declawing, since folks who live in those other countries have found them. You might also ask your friend if she has ever cut one of her nails too deeply and to remember how painful it was. This is just a fraction of the pain which a cat must endure post surgery and in some cases, permanently.



To name a few:

1. Learn to clip nails and do it every two weeks for front, and 4 weeks for hind claws.

2. Offer the cat really attractive cat posts and trees to claw on. They must be high enough for a cat to fully stretch out otherwise cats won't use them. They use them to stretch their muscles .. especially after naps. Carpeted ones are generally useless if that is the only material that is used. Sisal posts and sisal covered trees are magnets to cats. The cardboard scratchers are fabulous as well and very cheap.

3. Put scratching posts in every room of the house. Make sure that their texture does not in any way resemble the furniture.

4. Buy slip covers for treasured furniture and remove it for company.. and if the cat is still attracted, confine the cat in another room when the covers are off. You can get plastic corner shields for furniture.. Cat Fancy magazine advertises this product.

5. Try soft paws.

6.The backs of carpet samples are very attractive to cats to scratch on. The material used on the backing is magnetic, and they are very inexpensive.

7.If all of these options fail, rehome the cat if the furniture is more important.

Here are two excellent resource links to share with your friend..

http://www.clickertraining.com/node/217



http://www.pet-dog-cat-supply-store.com/shop/cat-scratch-posts.php



Declawing at any age is an abomination, in my opinion.Veterinarians who suggest this procedure are doing so to enjoy the huge fees which declaw surgery brings into their practice. Thankfully there are a few veterinarians in the USA who refuse to do it.



Hope this helps and good luck to you in changing your friend's mind.



Troublesniffer

Owned by cats for over 40 years

A passionate anti-declaw advocate.
2009-02-26 17:49:27 UTC
But of course it isn't the only option, in the first place as someone has already stated there is no evidence to believe that the cat is even going to shred the furniture, secondly there is a lot that your friend can do to teach her cat kindly that it may not scratch the furniture and of course she must buy scratching posts, toys, catnip and devote a lot of time and patience to her cat. This declawing of cats should never be an option and indeed isn't in the more modern and enlightened countries of the world where people either don't have a cat if they place furniture higher on the scale of importance or they teach their cat not to scratch the furniture or they buy cheaper furniture because the home belongs to the cat as well as the human and love is more important than possessions.

If as you say you don't approve of declawing then it is your moral duty to ensure this cat is spared this barbaric and almost medieval procedure
madazahata
2009-02-26 16:16:11 UTC
It's never an only option, how about in countries where declawing is already banned ? No one even thinks of wishing they could get their cats toes amputated,we go out and buy a good sturdy scratching post and train our cats to use it. It's that easy !!

The people who say their declawed cats are fine, hmmmmm, yes the poor things have survived the trauma of the operation which is the worst pain a cat can endure by the way,hmmm, they may not have developed behavioural problems ...yet ......but when older they'll be very lucky to esape the back problems which declawing causes.

Still I suppose if any of those things happen,those people who think its OK to take such very necessary parts from an animal, will just get a vet to take the poor cat's life from it and and then get another cat to mutilate ........until the problems begin again .......
2009-02-26 08:04:51 UTC
DEclawing is never the ONLY opttion. I get so angry when I see these questions especially when it is being referred to as an answer to preserving furniture. Why oh why do people insist on having cats when as soon as they purchase furniture the cat has to be mutilated. Does no person ever think of the implications of owning a cat or any other animal for that matter? Cats have claws for a very good reason, the main one being defence. It is not only the physical effects that your friend should be considering but also the psychological effects as well, It is well documented that declawing can be the trigger to serious bad behavioural problems include soiling and bad tempered behaviour. Please urge your friend to reconsider what she is going to do to this poor little thing, and what the consequences will be. Ok so the furniture will remain in pristine condition but the poor little cats trust in her owner will have been totally destroyed all for the sake of a nice sofa - what sort of world do some people live in
kattaddorra
2009-02-26 08:10:13 UTC
I just want to add that I agree with all the people who have replied already and told you how cruel declawing a cat is.

To the person who had 3 done and said they are fine after the pain has passed..WRONG ..they are never fine again, they are crippled for life and are almost certain to develop some behavioural problems fairly soon, and back troubles in later life, because they can not walk any more as cats should walk.

As for the person planning to declaw an 11 year old, that is very cruel, it is cruel enough at any age but for any person to arrange to take an older cats toes and claws away and put it through the risk of aneasthetic going wrong and the pain and confusion the poor cat will suffer, is beyond belief !! Also any vet agreeing to do this is not fit to be anywhere near anyone's animal !

Please everyone who thinks mutilating an animal is acceptable, think again,look up the recommended web sites and read up on it and unless you have a heart of stone, you'll then know how very wrong it is !

A true story .....

I'm ashamed to admit that I had it done to a cat that I had. When I saw her poor, mangled little paws after the fact I vowed to never do that again. What was left of her digits was limp, useless skin that she had to walk on. It was horrible.

I lost her to leukemia about a year ago. Her short life was spent tottering around uncertainly on nubs where toes should have been. Please don't make the same mistake I made in regard to de-clawing.



(Thanks to S for allowing me to print this)
Jessabell
2009-02-25 19:34:20 UTC
you should really get you friend to give the cat to a a family member or friend, i mean doesn't the cat mean more than the furniture?! if not then they dont deserve the cat. they should have reasearched the pros and cons of having a cat before buying and that way they would know that yes cats do scratch furniture but if they didnt like that they shouldnt have bought her so the poor cat would not have to be declawed. its irresponsible and shouldnt be done unless a medical condition or a proper reason other than didnt reasearch properly and now want to take part of the cats life away. thats what cats do - catch prey, climing fences, running etc. and they are taking that away from them.

however because, if she is going through with it anyway, she should do the right thing and that is the ONLY reason why i will help her. you can get a cat declawed after 1, people say the best way is laser declawing this is a site for after care in steps -http://www.ehow.com/how_2057680_care-newly-declawed-cat.html and you should be asking a vet i mean my god. first off they take her in without reasearching about cats and how the do scratch furniture then they want to take away her life before shes even had a chance to live it and then when doing the horrible thing they dont even ask the vet for proper advise, we are people who offer the best advise we can, but most arent vets and you should really get your friend to read what these people on y.a. are saying because its true. this person really shouldnt own a cat. and i know you are against it and its not your fault.

i know you will not choose me as best answer and i know i will probably get thumbs down but i just think that saying this is more important than a few points taking off my score. i love cats and so please do anything to stop your friend. i am not having a go at you, just your friend, but if she goes through with it please make sure she does it the right way. thankyou so much and sorry its so long.
Just~Me
2009-02-25 19:32:13 UTC
De-clawing is like pulling our finger nails out. Don't let this person do that to her cat. The older the cat is the more of a hard time it will have dealing with the pain.



When I was working at the shelter we had a couple come in one day to surrender their cat to us. Why? Because they had all 4 paws de-clawed at the same time. He was only 2 years old. They said he was the sweetest nicest cat before they had him de-clawed. After the surgery they said he turned out to be so vicious they couldn't even get near him with out him attacking. Sadly, he had to be Euthanized as we couldn't place him in anyone's home.



Tell your friend to get a good size scratching post, spray it with cat nip spray, put some treats at the very top and show the cat how to go up the pole. I used this method when I had 6 cats that were inside all of the time. It worked wonders ; ) They could get a small log as well and do the same thing as the cat post. A squirt gun or water pistol is ideal for situations like this. Every time your friend sees the cat head for the furniture have your friend squirt the cat and yell real loud. The cat will eventually get to the point where all he has to do is see the squirt gun and will take off, fast. There are also repellents that are sold in most pet stores. They have a very pungent odor but won't harm the cat. It will keep the cat away from any areas that he isn't supposed to be in. Only thing with the repellent is it has to be sprayed every 24 hours or it will lose it's scent and the cat will be back on the furniture.



Please, don't consider de-clawing. It's so painful for them to have to go threw.



I hope this helps.
Babz
2009-02-26 16:12:59 UTC
After reading all the replies you already have had I'm sure you now know that declawing is NOT the only option and indeed should not even be an option, I don't know what you people will do when the ban comes in..you'll HAVE to learn how to train and care for your cats properly then!

If your friend is still unconvinced then show her this link http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=103362652 or print it off including the photos and MAKE HER study it, also this site http://www.janskids.com/Declaw.html and click on the link to the kittens page



Keight7x if you are really contemplating having this major traumatic operation done to an 11 year old cat you need to be reported to animal protection and your cat taken off you. How can you even think of betraying an old friend like that?
Kia Koala Victorino (8)
2009-02-25 19:17:42 UTC
No, its NOT the only option. There are things called soft paws that you "glue" onto a cats claws that make them not scratch. Buy the cat scratching posts and spend the time to teach them to use it. Declawing is a cop out, and shows that the owners don't actually care about their pet, just their stuff. I know its not you , but there is never a necessity to do this unless its a medical emergency (and I have only read of very few of those). Your friend is making excuses and the cat is the one that is going to suffer incredible pain because of it.



A declawed cat will be more violent, vicious, and will bite. I won't even go into the physical detriments of it because I have sung this song 100 times. DO NOT DECLAW.



Woooo Amanda!!! Keep fighting the good fight girlfriend :)



Kgen, there are problems with declawing that go further than their attitude. Cats extend their claws and use that leverage to stretch and exercise their back, neck, arm and shoulder muscles, and without the ability to use their claws to secure themselves, are unable to stretch and exercise these parts and wind up being prone to arthritis (almost 100%). Its so much more than just walking and scratching, its problems that go so much deeper.
Dark
2009-02-25 19:21:06 UTC
It is NOT the only option. It is /never/ the only option.



Do you realize what goes into declawing? It's not a simple removal of the claws but a full blown amputation of healthy toes. Declawing a cat means removing the entire first joint/bone of each toe. It'd be like cutting our fingers off at the first knuckle. Declawing causes extreme pain to the cat and often problems down the line (litter box issues from associating the litter box with pain after surgery, personality changes/biting/and skittishness from having their first line of defense removed, arthritis from having to learn a new way of carrying their weight etc.). I hear people say all the time "better declawed than in a shelter", but in actuality many declawed cats end up in shelters anyway because of the behavioral problems many experience after being declawed.



Did you know it's illegal and considered inhumane mutilation in most countries outside the U.S.? I've personally observed a declaw surgery at a vet and it's not a pretty sight to watch a vet take guillotine nail clippers and lop off parts of toes... very barbaric looking (laser removal has less healing time and pain, but really isn't that much better in the long run). Please don't let your friend put her furniture over her cat's well being, it's just selfish. Declawing has no benefits to the cat, only the owner. There are numerous alternatives including scratching posts and surfaces, sticky tape, deterrent sprays, Soft Paws nail caps, and nail trimming. Please read more on this awful procedure before you consider it:

http://www.declawing.com/ (DECLAWING: What You Need to Know)

http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=001 (Cats and Claws -- Living Happily Ever After)

http://declaw.lisaviolet.com/ (the Declawing Menu - Educate!! Don't Amputate!!)

http://www.felinefuture.com/health/declawing.php (Countering arguments for de-clawing)

http://www.softpaws.com/ (Soft Paws, declawing alternative)





Darksong~
Michele the Louis Wain cat
2009-02-25 19:50:36 UTC
Declawing is never the only option. There are lots of humane alternatives that don't involve amputating the end of the cat's toes.



Have you tried explaining to your friend why you (and millions of cat owners worldwide) don't approve of it? Perhaps she doesn't understand that it's not just removal of the claws? There's a wealth of internet sites that explain both the medical and behavioural reasons why declawing is an unnecessary form of animal cruelty that has been made illegal in most countries except for Canada and the US.



To protect her furniture, your friend simply needs to provide her cat with something of their own that they are allowed to scratch. It's a solution that really does work if people are prepared to invest the time to teach their cat claw manners. These articles have lots of information and advice on encouraging cats to use a scratch post. There's also suggestions on ways to protect furniture, wallpaper etc.,



http://www.catscratching.com/

http://www.celiahaddon.co.uk/pet%20problems/cats/scratching.html



Even for those people who can't be bothered to teach their cat to use a scratch post, claw covers exist so I fail to see why anyone would consider declawing as the only option.



For the sake of this cat, please find a way to educate your friend on this subject and persuade her to change her mind.
eyJude
2009-02-25 19:42:31 UTC
READ this first...

IF YOU INSIST then get the kind that is laser which doesn't remove the toe but only the nail

go to the carpet store and get some left overs and lay them around up/side/down... they LOVE the backs of carpet!

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DECLAWING

http://cats.about.com/od/declawing/tp/reasonsnot.htm



Declawing May Lead to Litter Box Problems

Declawed cats often associate the pain when digging in litter with the litter box itself, and will avoid it, choosing softer carpeting instead.

Declawing Sometimes Leads to Biting Problems

When cats lose their ability to give a quick warning scratch, they will often resort to their second line of defense: a good, hard bite. The cat's owner may sometimes find himself the victim, just when he thinks his cat is enjoying a petting session.

Cats Need the Exercise Their Claws and Toes Provide

Watch a cat stretch, whether horizontally on a carpet or vertically with a tall scratching post. He will grab the carpet or sisal with his claws, using the resistance to pull and stretch his muscles. Cats' claws actually play a large and positive role in their amazing muscle tone and agility.

Altered Gait May Lead to Later Joint Problems

Domestic cats are digitigrade, meaning they walk on their toes. Walking with an altered gait because of the lack of the first digit of the toes can affect all the joints of the leg, resulting later in arthritis of the hip and other joints. Jean Hofve, DVM describes this joint deterioration more fully, in her article, "A Rational Look at Declawing."

Cats Need to Be Cats for Their Entire "Nine Lives"

Honestly, if a cat could speak human language, do you really think, given a choice, he'd say, "Sure thing. Cut off part of my toes?" His claws and toes are an integral part of making a cat a cat. Would you honestly want him to be anything less, especially since there are humane alternatives? It's your decision, but please take your cat's needs into serious consideration before making such a drastic and permanent choice.
shaman
2009-02-25 19:20:47 UTC
It is incredibly cruel to declaw a cat. Apart from the pain the cat experiences, and can not tell you about how long it suffers physically and mentally. You effectively remove the cats main weapon of defense, this has resulted in depressed and confused animals that develop a strong tendency to bite. I beg you on behalf of you cat, furniture has no feelings, but your relationship with your cat will be irreversibly altered and soured. Please don't.
Emma L
2009-02-25 19:30:18 UTC
Please don't de-claw, it is cruel and not neccessary! I use double sided tape on furniture I don't want scratched; cats hate the sticky feeling on their paws. Another solution is to use Feliway spray (not sure if available outside UK? Have a look at www.feliway.uk.com), which is a pheromone spray that calms the cat and makes them think they have already marked the item. I have used both on occasions, and have found this to work.



Also, a cat who scratches furniture is either bored, or needs to sharpen it's claws. Does your friends cat have a scratching post? If so, when the cat tries to scratch the furniture, direct it to the scratch post. Make sure the cat has plenty of toys to play with as well, so it doesnt use furniture as toys!!!
2009-02-26 17:30:21 UTC
are you mad mrs? you are against it and yet you sayin only option and askin special things for after care? surley you not givin up and lettin her ruin that cat life?? it too late to care AFTER you need to care NOW and stop her doin it



what furniture can be that important that rive clawes off for?



cat there b4 furniture - why buy furniture if knew cat MIGHT shred? by no meens certain would shred anyways
Amanda C
2009-02-25 19:35:56 UTC
Please educate yourself on declawing before you make that terrible decision!!! It will change the cats entire way of life (and not for the better).

Please read this: I asked this question this morning - Read the story that a declawed cat that I found went through.



https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20090225061609AAI1sO4



BTW- that question was deleted this morning - i appealed it AND WON! woohooooooo. So the question is back up for viewing!
2009-02-25 19:34:16 UTC
If you’re thinking about having your cat declawed, there are many things you should know before you make your decision. The surgery is basically an American trend, and is considered inhumane and is illegal in many countries, (England, Scotland, Wales, Italy, France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Northern Ireland, Ireland, Denmark, Finland, Slovenia, Portugal, Belgium, Brazil, Australia, New Zealand, Yugoslavia and Japan). If that doesn’t impact your opinion about declawing, maybe this website will help you decide: http://community-2.webtv.net/stopdeclaw/declawpics/



I believe that people who have their cats declawed are uneducated. It is not very difficult to train your cat to use a scratching post. The surgery is not simply a trimming of the claws, it’s an amputation of the distal phalanx, including bones, ligaments, and tendons! To remove the claw, the bone, nerve, joint capsule, collateral ligaments, and the extensor and flexor tendons must all be amputated. If you were to make a comparison, it would be like having the last joint of each of our fingers chopped off. So of course it is a painful surgery, with a painful recovery. There are often many complications in the healing process, including infection often from litter box use, resulting in a life-long aversion to the litter box. Other declawed cats that can no longer mark with their claws, will mark with urine instead, resulting in inappropriate elimination problems.



Many cats who have been declawed are traumatized and become withdrawn, nervous, fearful and/or aggressive. Cats who went through the painful surgery are more prone to resort to biting when they feel threatened. Since cats have emotional feelings, (just like we do) they can resent you if you decided to get them declawed. All of these things can cause depression and ultimately lead to an overweight cat.



If a cat who has been declawed accidentally escapes, he/she would be in great danger. A cat needs it's claws to defend itself, as well as to escape by climbing. The constant state of stress, caused by a feeling of defenselessness may make some declawed cats more prone to disease. Also they cannot stretch their back and shoulder muscles like they do naturally when they dig their claws into a scratching post.



One popular alternative is Soft Paws. They are lightweight vinyl nail caps that you glue on the cat's front claws. They're great for households with small children and are extremely useful for people who are away from home all day and can't exercise the watchfulness necessary to train a cat to use a scratching post. Soft Paws are easy to apply and last about four to six weeks. They come in clear or colors--which are really fun.



Most common types of damage are scratched furniture, ripped carpets and shredded wallpaper. You want to eliminate the problem before it occurs. Buy or build a stable, tall scratching-post, right from the start. Here are some tips to do it right: If your cat is scratching your furniture or rugs, here is some advice on training them to use a scratching post:

- The post should be at least two feet high, covered with sisal-rope, (mine like the carpeted ones)

- Get more than one, especially when you have a multi-cat household

- Place the post close to the furniture or other areas which are most at risk

- Introduce a new scratching-post with some catnip sprinkled on its surface. Cats love that and it’s more attractive to them

- If your cat starts scratching the "wrong" object, say "NO" and gently carry your cat to the desired post. Demonstrate how to use it by scratching the post with your own nails. If the cat doesn‘t catch on after trying this repeatedly for a few days, gently pick up his paws rub them along the post.

- Never force your cat. When it starts scratching the post by itself, make sure you use verbal praise with a rewarding treat and plenty of affection. The cat needs to know that using the scratching post results in positive things such as affection, playing and treats.

- When you have a kitten, start early with the "pawing at post" technique

- Invest in what’s called a “cat tree” which acts also as a leisure area for your cat. Different textures and heights make it more interesting, you perhaps want to build it yourself

- Try some repellent like pepper-dust or some commercial products on your furniture to keep your cat off these areas

- Be persistent and don't give up too soon



Use cat claw trimmers and only take off a tiny bit at the end of the nail. Some people say to do it every other week. I think it‘s safer to cut off less than you are told, and to do it more often, (like once a week). Never use trimmers that are made for humans or dogs, because you are more likely to hurt her that way. You can ask your vet or groomer to show you the proper way to do it. Here's a website that shows you how:

http://www.catscratching.com/htmls/article.htm
Kgen
2009-02-25 19:44:24 UTC
Okay, I have 3 cats and all 3 are declawed front and back (i can hear the gasps now)

Two were over a year old and one was about 3 months old. The two that are a little older, it took them an extra day or two to get back to their normal selves, but they were fine. Maybe I'm just the exception to the rule, but my cats are perfectly happy and dandy without their claws. Their temperaments didn't change, nothing is different now, except there are no claws. Obviously, they never even see the outdoors (in fact they're scared to even go outside) and that's the way it should be since they have no way to defend themselves.



So in answer to your question, your friend should be careful. I know a lot of people have had their cats change for the worse when they were declawed. Fortunately, mine are absolutely perfect!
catloverme123
2009-02-25 19:22:15 UTC
why would she want to mutalate her cat? I would say I rather the cat be rehomed then to have to be tortured like that and then odds are will start having behavioral problems and they will end up rehoming it anyway but it will be in pain the rest of it's life.
Angel of music
2009-02-26 10:07:28 UTC
http://community-2.webtv.net/stopdeclaw/declawpics/



Ifyou are not convinced by all your replies, look at the above and get your friend to look at it too.Would she like to think of her cat like that ???
2009-02-25 19:16:00 UTC
I couldn't get them declawed, just keep a rolled up newspaper.



I think what they do is keep in badage?
keight7x
2009-02-25 19:24:00 UTC
I have an 11 year old cat. She has ripped my couch to shreds. She hates softpaws and won't even walk when you put them on her, and as soon as you cut her nails, she goes to the nearest couch or carpet and starts to claw. We have tried everything. So I know what your going through.



But have you tried softpaws? Most cats don't mind them, and this saves them from being declawed.



anyway, She is set to be declawed here in the next month, and she's 11, so I would say your 1 year old is definitely fine.
nano
2009-02-25 19:16:56 UTC
I got my two 2yr old cats declawed last sept. 2008..once they get declawed you cannot let them go outside because they have no defense..for about 10 days they r in pain and u give them pain pills that the vet gives u..they need special litter which the vet gives u..only while they heal..once they healed they r a riot again!!..only now u don't have to worry about ur furniture and also they won't jump on high things anymore like the fridge


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